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Discussion started by James on 15th April 2006

 

 
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Sue adds on 13/04/07

James, do not "tar" all Big Issue sellers with the same brush.  They are not ALL as you suggest.  Granted some do just sell the magazine to fund their "habit", but not all.  For many years I worked for one of the big banks and for the last 10 years or so in Hove.  We had a big issue seller outside our branch, and yes one Manager (a snob) thought it degrading and tried to get him moved on.  This chap always stood between the cash machine and the door, was always polite, opened the door for both customers and staff and we NEVER had a single complaint about him or where he stood.  As has recently been said, there for the grace of God go I.
 
Chris comments on 18/09/06

are you being sarcastic james? you honestly believe homeless people CHOOSE to be on the streets?

homeless people refuse help? surely them selling the big issue (that offended that much you chose to write on here) isn't that help? where exactly do you think the magazines come from? do you think homeless people carry printing presses around with them or something?

i don't see what basis a persons housing situation has on their right to stand in our town centre? and by the way, there is no "they" i hate to break it to you, "they're" people too. by that logic i could tar the whole lancing population as you do for homeless people, and assume they're all as tragic as you. which judging by the previous responses isnt true. you're far more damaging to society than a person selling a big issue.

the big issue in itself is a great magazine, it has lots of arts and culture etc (which would be lost on you anyway) as well as current affairs, celebrity interviews etc etc. it's well worth it's money without the actual help it provides.

go back to enjoying your bus shelters.

pip pip!
 

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James comments

"On several occasions now I have been asked for money by vagrants selling 'The Big Issue' in Lancing Village North Street. I am not saying that it is wrong, it is just maybe we are an easy target for giving. We must remember that the more money we give them in Lancing then the more we will see vagrants in Lancing in the future. I give to charity but not on the street like that. If you wish to give cash on the street then maybe the collection tin is the right idea and not to a man that may spend your money on something you will be never temped to buy. I believe that they choose to be on the street and beg as there are so many organisations out there offering help. Give the money to the charities and not the user is what I say"

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Ray replies on 30/04/06

"James I am totally appalled at this  bigotry. One wonders what other groups of people you would like to remove from "good old Lancing".
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James replies to Ray on 01/08/06

Well Ray, I would like to remove people who cause verbal wars by shouting biggot. Also I would remove people who imagine that a comment writer is a despot by not inviting Big Issue sellers to Lancing. I find it strange that you assume that I wish to remove other classes of people, who are they and  how did I suggest that in the first place? Your comment was without value or truth. Now, you have made me respond with a comment of little value as well.
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Ann replies on 20/04/06

"James - next time you go through your front door on a cold night, think what it might be like to sleep rough on the streets. There but for the Grace of God........."
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Heather replies on 20/04/06

"I do not know what happened to the young Big Issue vendor who used to be in Lancing but the present one is also very polite and always ready to give change when given more than the cost of the magazine.  He appears to be very clean and I have never noticed that he smells of alcohol or any other unpleasant odour.  At least he is trying to improve his circumstances and the Big Issue is an excellent magazine"
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Lynn replies on 17/04/06

"I was annoyed to read this comment , Firstly Big Issue sellers are not vagrants but people who often through no fault of their own  have fallen on hard times and are now positively trying to help themselves to become a valued member of society.  I would suggest that the seller would like you to purchase a copy of The Big Issue and is not begging for money as James suggests. you have the right to say no thank you . Do not assume or judge"

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James replies to Lynn on 20/04/06

So Lynn, how many vagrants in total do you feel is ok to be found selling The Big Issue at any one time in Lancing? Would fifty do? They refuse organised help other than selling the Big Issue, they are generally dirty, usually smelly, often drink alcohol, have been known to take drugs and like to form little social groups in bus shelters and other areas that we can then no longer enjoy because of all the urine and general body fluids left there. People live in Lancing above the shops, how would you like 50 vagrants sitting outside where you live? I know that how you feel is charitable and you are seen to be doing the right thing, I just feel that they should be taken off the streets as a huge charitable gesture, meanwhile please do not feed them in good old Lancing because they will cluster here like pigeons in Trafalgar Square, London do.
 

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