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KALMS and parking in The Street
J. has comments about "KALMS" ..... and parking in The Street
Whilst I applaud the sentiment motivating your KALMS project, I believe that one needs to go beyond rhetoric and aspirational comments in order to address such an issue; we are, after all, talking about people breaking the law ... whether that is speeding or parking on double yellow lines.  The latter for me is more of a personal issue:  several times when turning into  The Street for access,  I have needed to reverse back into Mill Lane because  people parking on the double yellow lines outside the Mill Stores  prevents me from pulling into the side in order to give way to  vehicles travelling west ... and this with the explicit collusion of the proprietor, who stands outside of his premises without making any comment to the illegally parked driver.  On at least three occasions,  my grand-daughter has been in the back seat.
It is an offence to park on double yellow lines.    In this instance, it is downright dangerous when given the speed that some drivers travel at and the 'blind spots' on Mill Road in this vicinity. 

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14/09/07

G. replies on 19/09/07

Dear Andy, I agree wholeheartedly with your writer 'J'.  The parking issue around Milldene Stores needs to be address as it is becoming more and more of nuisance.  My main concern is children coming from the shop and darting out between the illegally parked cars.

As was suggested a few weeks ago, taking the double yellow lines away in Mill Road opposite the Milldene Stores is NOT the answer and would, if it had been allowed, created evermore problems and possible accidents.

As commented in 'J's' letter the proprietor of Milldene Stores,  needs to remind customers that they are parking illegally if they have left their cars on the double yellow lines.

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9/09/07

A replies on 30/09/07

I was under the impression that the general concept of the Community Association is to promote good relations within our community and, whilst we may all have issues from time to time with things that are happening in our community, I really don't feel that comments such as these of a personal nature are conducive to our stated aim.  I'm sure we would all listen and consider the issues if they are presented in another way and I would suggest that, because of the above reasons, these comments should be removed from
the site and re-presented by the contributors in a way more in keeping with our aim!

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Chairperson andy replies on 01/10/07

"KALMS" seems literally to have had the opposite effect! I recognise that both J. and G. have strong views about the matter of parking cars around the Milldene Stores and The Street. I do feel it  needs to be made clear of course that the proprietors of Milldene, Ali and Morgan have no responsibility for "policing" what seems to be illegal parking. This is one of those issues like cyclists on the pavement, drivers using mobile phones etc that tends to polarise views.

I am responsible for the web pages and take that responsibility seriously and, with hindsight, a personal comment made by J. and G. about the proprietor of Milldene Stores was not relevant to the argument and probably should not have been placed here - that part of the comment has now been removed.

A. seems to be attempting to strike the middle ground here seeking to focus on the aims of the NLCA - which it probably a good way to handle a contentious and difficult issue.

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B replies on 01/10/07

I think most of us accept that parking around Milldene Stores is a problem. This is no different from most places - the fact is that we have too many cars in this country for too small an area.  In our case, there is only a small space for local residents' parking and their visitors, and for those who want to visit the shop or Post Office.  Although 'G' says that removing the double yellow lines opposite would not be the answer, the other side of the discussion is that it could help.  If we removed them, there would be extra places for people visiting the shop to park and more parking for residents, so there would not be so much need to park on the corner, and the effect of cars parked there would be to reduce the speed of the traffic passing through, which could increase safety (this is, as I understand it, the view of the experts at West Sussex Highways, not mine). I accept that crossing the road to reach the shop could create a potential hazard, but not if we adopt the green cross code (remember that?  It's all about knowing how to cross a road).

I feel sure that if we all put our minds to it we could work together to make this issues less of a problem than it seems to be now.  KALMS is all about safety and consideration.  If we can successfully promote these two things (i.e. 'please park safely and considerately') then it will be better for all of us.  I would much prefer to do it this way than risk not having a shop at all.

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M  replies on 18/10/07

Yes I remember the green cross code and I even remember the tufty club - although whoever thought a squirrel was a suitable animal to promote road safety must have been nuts - after all, squirrels do not have a particularly good record for safety when crossing the road - at least, not if the amount of squashed squirrels one sees is anything to go by!

I also have problems when driving down Mill Road if someone has parked on the yellow lines outside the shop, as this automatically means that I have to drive on the wrong side of the road to pass them, and on a blind corner this can be somewhat hazardous.  I am fairly tolerant if the driver is elderly or infirm and there are no adjacent spaces available, but often it is a younger person who has parked there, even when a space may be available just a few yards away.

I think it is unrealistic to expect the owner of the stores to act as policeman and enforce the parking laws, after all, these are his customers and I am sure he would not want to offend them. However, if the offender is about to get into their car as I am passing I often slow down and prevent them from opening their door for a while in an attempt to embarrass them and - should I be one day confronted by a car coming up the hill and have to take avoiding action -  you can be damned sure that it is the parked car that I will hit and not the innocent driver heading towards me.

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